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Old 07-25-2016, 12:25 AM   #1
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Default Samurai, Hellram, Aliangel - Sad Trio.

So, we all agree on the fact that Samurai, Hellram, and, holy cow, sad 'n pitty Aliangel Armor parts need some remake or tweaking. They were somewhat situationaly good before Legendary Weapons were introduced and average PvP damage raised, I remember Hellram Armors Ess cost way more than they do now... But Aliangel is horrible. No one ever really used that one since release of Legendary Armor, noone, nobody!!! (Am talking about Legs and Sleeves yeah...)

So, Lets start some brainstorming. Post your best ideas of how could those be tweaked or changed for the good.

Ill start with Samurai idea.

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Brestplate: When struck with direct damage attack, your attacker will take 5% of the damage done.

Sleeves: When struck with direct damage attack, your attacker will take 50 poison damage over 20 seconds. (This means 100% to poison back the attacker for each piece. Or make it Bleed and not poison so Archers wont be too far in heaven.)

Legs: When struck with direct damage attack, your attacker will take 100 poison damage over 20 seconds.

Helmet: Provides 7% bonus to crit with melee attacks. This is freaking samurai stuff babeh, needs some melee goodness.
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Sleeves: When struck with direct damage attack, you will receive blessing healing 180 HP over 40 seconds.

Legs: When struck with direct damage attack, you will receive blessing healing 300 HP over 40 seconds.
As for Hellram, could simply Increase AC, like less stats but with abnormaly high AC, would also make shields from those armors more valuable.

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Old 07-25-2016, 04:36 AM   #2
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Support. Some nice ideas for when glitch finishes the 2016 agenda.
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:22 AM   #3
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Maybe provide a buff for a complete same type suit - all samurai pieces maybe 25% extra on each proc?

should work with all suits - motivate ppls

sammich time !
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Old 07-25-2016, 08:24 PM   #4
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Nice ideas, support anything along this general line that might make these suits viable options.
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how about this...

aliangel gives a slight boost to heal gems (heal/cure) for each piece

samurai gives a slight boost to poison gems and bloodlets

hellram gives a slight boost to dmg shield gems...

I don't see a huge PVE buff here. just additionals that would help in pvp

as I said could work too
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as I said could work too
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:21 AM   #7
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I use Aliangel legs and sleeves as my heal suit when in arena. I am happy with its function and procs.
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so you find it compares to the other lgs for pvp then? you are one of the only people who have ever said this.
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buff ali bp
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whole ali hellram and samurai set just need adjustment not buff per say... buffs are bad and make for nerfs...
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whole ali hellram and samurai set just need adjustment not buff per say... buffs are bad and make for nerfs...
Don't think the aliangel BP will need an adjustment. A buff sounds appropriate. I like the general idea of haste armor. It's just not popular, as most people prefer demonskull. A 1 or 2 percent bonus to haste for aliangel bp would be good enough.
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Aliangel BP is awesome, the only decend Aliangel armor piece, no whining here from me.
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welp, if glitch diesn't rework them, maybe the procs could be increased dramatically when uptiering the armor piece.something like 100 heal->150->200, as the stronger the competition, stronger the armor should be.afterall, if piercing min dmg was buffed due to uptiering I don't see why these procs can't be.
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yes but it would make them severely OP PVE for farming high end bosses... thus the initial issue
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yes but it would make them severely OP PVE for farming high end bosses... thus the initial issue
Maybe Glitch could be able to make the code differ pve and pvp?
for pve=normal proc values, for pvp=higher values (~+50% or so?)
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This thread could directly relate to the one i posted....

Convert aliangel to:

Legendary Resourcing Suit!

Click link above to see what i suggested
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I was more thinking letting hellram samurai and aliangel compete PVP wise...
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:27 AM   #18
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I like Your idea too Nomi, anything more usefull would be nice, wether its combat related or not.
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welp, if glitch diesn't rework them, maybe the procs could be increased dramatically when uptiering the armor piece.something like 100 heal->150->200, as the stronger the competition, stronger the armor should be.afterall, if piercing min dmg was buffed due to uptiering I don't see why these procs can't be.
I agree, but in all fairness I must point out that piercing wasn't buffed from uptiers, all weapons were :P. 1 min dmg so far on all lgs I have seen per uptier. Pierce just happens to benefit more from that 1 min dmg than the rest of ye, which is fair since the rest of ye benefit more from any max damage increases from uptiering :P.
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THe suits thusfar give bonus to

DD
DoT
DPS for most builds
Speed
Pets heals and haste and dmg

Nothing boosts dmg shields or heal gems

Ill repeat myself

The aliangel could have a slight boost each piece to heal gems... lets say 2% or so. increasing .5 or 1% each tier (not a huge diff but it DOES boost the gear)

Hellram could have the same for dmg shields

Samurai... this one could boost min dmg or bloodlets for pierce users? Why not they need a lil love don't they?
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