Vamp + Bonus
Old 11-23-2014, 03:55 AM   #1
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not working as described

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It would be wise to understand how the patch works before passing judgements. The damage buff occurs at the very final moment before damage is applied - effects that are based on the amount of damage done are calculated before this and do not benefit from this increase. Things such as Gift of Light, vamp heals, pet heals, Bladow - none of things things benefit. Healers were buffed with this patch.
tested with MA and it's vamping based on the full amount of the damage, not on the pre-multiplier damage

confirmed for manergy theft as well



confirmed- dot skills working as intended.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:27 PM   #2
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What does MA stand for?


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Old 11-25-2014, 05:55 PM   #3
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:58 PM   #4
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If they put a nice icon on you it's beneficial if they put a mean one on the other guy it's detrimental.
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The player was banned for using an exploit repeatedly without reporting it. There's only 1 proper way to profit off an exploit: report it.
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Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 11-25-2014, 05:59 PM   #5
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More in-depth description of how we tested:

Nibbles used r6 vamp rune and t1 conq quiver. Attacked Masterarcher before bonus multiple times. Vamp was 19%.

Attacked deep into bonus. Vamp was still 19% (of the full number).

This means that the vamp is being based on the full damage, not the premultiplier damage. Identical testing procedure revealed this to be true for Mana and Energy Theft Runes and Gems.
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If they put a nice icon on you it's beneficial if they put a mean one on the other guy it's detrimental.
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The player was banned for using an exploit repeatedly without reporting it. There's only 1 proper way to profit off an exploit: report it.
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Originally Posted by Huggles
Old Delay/(1+haste%) = New Delay

For slow effects, use the slow % but as a negative.

Just repeat for multiple effects.

DO NOT multiply by 1+slow% to get your new delay. 1*1.4 is not the same as 1/0.6 and your answer will be wrong.
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Old 11-25-2014, 10:18 PM   #6
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We have corrected our statement and issued further clarification in the thread you quoted from:
http://forums.nodiatis.com/forums/sh...php_t=13037#10
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