bloodlets and vamping'

[RogueTigeR]

This has come up time and time again....
Bloodlets do not currently vamp either HP, with vamp bonus, or rune...

Now that these new melee gems are out, higher ranking ones requiring tons of mana/energy to function, its almost a necessity that bloodlets vamp en/mana from the new melee mana/energy thief gems. As little as 1/5 and as much as 1/2 my dmg comes from bloodlets, that is a lot of mana/en/HP lost just b/c it does not come from a direct source, rather a bloodlet.

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RogueTigeR

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[Lightdrinker]

It is not neccesary that bloodlets give you mana and energy. DD casters do not regain all their mana/energy from casts. Try using some bursts to refill like a caster has to or mre/pre.
YET ANOTHER OMG I AM MELLE TOON I RUN 4 TOONS AT A TIME I WANT TOT HIT LIKE A CASTER AND DO IT WITHOUT CLICKING AND RUN 4 toons at a time thread
Not expected from u roque figured u would be one of the few to learn how to use the gems to their fullest without asking for more buffs

[RogueTigeR]

my pouch has...... 12 bursts.... 16 cantrips in it....

[Lightdrinker]

Well now just about every type of build can hit 3500 + in some way another
The ones left behind in farming speed in my opinion is Beastmasters now
Some of the Hits i seen from your piercer on your tube are higher then i ever seen a caster hit for u also have melle theft to add increased theft that a caster does not have
You are not even full damage speced build like suggested it would take for a caster to hit those kind of #s
All this extra damage should be costly to maintain

KNOW YOUR LIMITS KNAVE TOU DONT HAVE MANA ENERGY TO WTF PWN EVERYTHING:P

[hotshot64]

The reason bloodlets don't perform this function is they're guaranteed. A dd caster might steal 100 energy on one hit, but might only steal 5 energy on the next. Same with anyone else. You would have a constant reliable source of energy/mana if you bloodlet on each hit.

[RogueTigeR]

Originally Posted by hotshot64

The reason bloodlets don't perform this function is they're guaranteed. A dd caster might steal 100 energy on one hit, but might only steal 5 energy on the next. Same with anyone else. You would have a constant reliable source of energy/mana if you bloodlet on each hit.

if Bloodlets are 'reliable'... then hitting for bloodlet amt. is reliable too... i dont get your point.. b/c you have to remember that a bloodlet is not some imaginary number, but stands for the lowest you can hit w/ your weapon. They ARE reliable...for normal hits too... your bloodlet number will always be less than or equal to your hit...

To LD...The vast majority of my 'big hits' are just 'for show'... by that I mean.... hitting for 12k on a double attack... ONLY happens when mob has <20% HP... Besides bosses...high bosses (which melee as DPS really cannot handle), normal mobs have waaaaay less than this... PvP, Same..... hitting for 12k is cool... but ONLY happens when like 3k HP is left...

[RogueTigeR]

Terrible at PvE?... pshaw
lol
besides me?... and staff users.. top 25 solo boss kills... all used whips....
fast farming... maybe not the fastest.. but can solo like a mofo... hell ya

[>.>]

that is because of they are tanks with moderate dps

[Lightdrinker]

Highest boss kills does not = good famring speed
These new gems have now made whippers by far the slowest farmers
My suggestion is epic rabid it takes away the heal anyways that can be 100 lvls of loyalty and 100 lvls of fire and ice .Loss of use of the skills wile rabid is in effect isnt worth asking for a lil more dps? is it much to ask for ability to do double damage for a fast kill just like other melle toons can now ? The new melle gems do very lil to help kill speeds on a whipper i have tried them are they useful yes but not much

[concede]

the new melee gems add a lot of chance though...

my kills range from 5s-20 with sharpened in rapids

they are 5s- 35s with weighted.....the range increases but yes there is a CHANCE for faster kills....all depends

and sharpened steel is just as beneficial for whip users as crush/slash/pierce.....along with weighted or even melee haste for that matter because how many whip users have the downfall of haste gem not being effective due to using a 992h slash or as effective because of WM CA

tbh those gems benefited whip users just as much as any other melee toon

[Lightdrinker]

The gems are helpful for whippers sure but not much concede u use crushers when i inspected u
Whips do not do much damage and are not the main source of damage from a bm
very minimal effect from these gems rabid melle haste and sharpened i have been running on my whipper
non heroic
shaved a few seconds of my times in lake that are still around 30 secs average and most tier 1 bm skills are 99 and 89 ferocity

[hotshot64]

I feel I should point out deathblow hits steal the full amount of energy, health, and mana. So that massive damage isn't worthless.

[Lightdrinker]

true there daer good point

[RogueTigeR]

rabid 5... 50% xtra max dmg from main dmg source...no delay to dmg source

haste 5... 10% more dmg/delay from main dmg source... less delay figures into the dmg increase

Sharpened 5.... ~9% more dmg/delay

Weighted 5.... 100% xtra dmg... 2x Delay... Zero % more dmg/delay...



Rabid is out in front in terms of dmg/delay...



**And.. im not saying soloing high mobs/bosses solo makes for faster farming... just saying that whippers can more easily. I am just saying... you cannot get it all.. cannot ask for PvE totallity.. yes, you are not the most elite farmers, BUT... look at solo boss tops list...its give n' take

[RogueTigeR]

look at to 30...

:S i used to be 6 for that boss

i needz to up the game

[concede]

true, i do use crushers....but I also have an alt still on boon who benefits from melee gems quite a bit. kills are almost as fast in rapids as my dw crushers w/ r4 rabid