List of Under-performing and Underused LG weapons

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by Kirito

Why not just change the fixed healing numbers to % max hp heals?

10k hp heals 1% = 100

But if 50k hp 1% = 500

Thus the item is more relevant having more hp?

Definitely an interesting idea, as is the idea to make them melee stat items.

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Another suggestion:

Demon Eye Hell Hammer
1H Crush
Damage: 35-305
Delay: 41
Accuracy: Epic
Str: 10
When striking an enemy with this weapon you have a chance to cause them to be treated as having under 20% health for the purpose of receiving detrimental effects for 1.25 seconds. Also provides a 7% chance to hit with all attacks.

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A few suggestions for Cudgel of Cursed Blood:

Gives wearer a 7% chance to successfully hit with all attacks and and has a chance to inflict disease dealing 600 damage over 10 seconds to the user and all enemies on a successful hit.

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When used, applies a 9% devampiric health aura on the user. On a successful hit, this weapon applies an aura on the target causing it to take 9% more damage. Also provides a 5% chance to hit with all attacks.

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Same as it is now, but when blocked the disease applies to all enemies, 400 over 10 seconds. Double damage if there is only one enemy.

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Axe of Soul Stealing

When striking an enemy with this weapon you have a chance to apply an aura to your opponent which reduces their mana, energy, and HP regen by 5% and causes the lost regen to be given to you.

I didn't know quite how to word it, but the idea is that your enemy takes a penalty to all types of regen and yours increases by the amount they would lose out on.A single burst of HP, Mana, and Energy on hit would probably work best.

[Lakki]

|Heaven Shock Bow|

Damage 4-277

Delay : 46

Int 5: , Cnc : 4 , Dur : 2 , Reg : 9

This bow provides a 21% bonus to all heal and cure gems and has a chance to deal 60 forsaken damage over 15 seconds when landing a ranged shot.
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I honestly forgot this bow existed for a while, but then i noticed the master on AH, and that not a single toon in the arena queue uses this item, except for Brau. I could not find a reason as to why, anyone would want to use this bow. I spoke with Freaky, Tsutsu, and Algamis about it, and they told me it's to make a healer / archer. After long discussion, it is apparent that there just isn't enough stats to properly run a healer/archer and staff can do it better.

The bow has surprisingly similar stats to demontendon, but the disappointment on this bow is that it has 10 less minimum damage, but 1 less delay. i'm not even sure how that makes much sense lol, the bow already shoots very slow, why so little min?

it's apparent that both these bows are not doing so well in terms of popularity rate, But i honestly think Heaven Shock is worse.

You could probably get away with running Ranger's Earthflow bow as a healer archer, while getting the 16% bonus to the green heal gems, as well as the mana/energy needed to upkeep them better. So this is probably better than running heaven shock, with just it's mediocre 21% heal/cure boost and useless DPS proc.

my Suggestion for Heaven Shock bow is : raise the heal/cure proc from 21% to 30% and raise its Forsaken proc to at least 120 over 15 seconds, because it just doesn't do much. there is basically no incentive to using this bow, as a one-shot archer, or as a healer archer. It seriously needs buffs, or a proc overhaul. When I think of a bow, that probably Zeus would use, heaven shock, i don't think of this bow at all.

[Kirito]

Originally Posted by Lakki

|Heaven Shock Bow|

Damage 4-277

Delay : 46

Int 5: , Cnc : 4 , Dur : 2 , Reg : 9

This bow provides a 21% bonus to all heal and cure gems and has a chance to deal 60 forsaken damage over 15 seconds when landing a ranged shot.
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I honestly forgot this bow existed for a while, but then i noticed the master on AH, and that not a single toon in the arena queue uses this item, except for Brau. I could not find a reason as to why, anyone would want to use this bow. I spoke with Freaky, Tsutsu, and Algamis about it, and they told me it's to make a healer / archer. After long discussion, it is apparent that there just isn't enough stats to properly run a healer/archer and staff can do it better.

The bow has surprisingly similar stats to demontendon, but the disappointment on this bow is that it has 10 less minimum damage, but 1 less delay. i'm not even sure how that makes much sense lol, the bow already shoots very slow, why so little min?

it's apparent that both these bows are not doing so well in terms of popularity rate, But i honestly think Heaven Shock is worse.

You could probably get away with running Ranger's Earthflow bow as a healer archer, while getting the 16% bonus to the green heal gems, as well as the mana/energy needed to upkeep them better. So this is probably better than running heaven shock, with just it's mediocre 21% heal/cure boost and useless DPS proc.

my Suggestion for Heaven Shock bow is : raise the heal/cure proc from 21% to 30% and raise its Forsaken proc to at least 120 over 15 seconds, because it just doesn't do much. there is basically no incentive to using this bow, as a one-shot archer, or as a healer archer. It seriously needs buffs, or a proc overhaul. When I think of a bow, that probably Zeus would use, heaven shock, i don't think of this bow at all.

I don't feel an increase to heal% will make the bow any more desirable, however if you wouldn't mind buffing aliangel gear into small hp% procs then add an effect on this bow to increase the usefulness of aliangel by a scaling value based on tier (110%, 115% etc) I feel it might make it more useful, if however you wanted to leave it the same, why not modify it to be more useful to only never-ending heal gems (sylvain, gaia etc) possibly giving either a scaling increase for them or a flat amount, possibly double???

[Brau]

Originally Posted by Lakki

|Heaven Shock Bow|

Damage 4-277

Delay : 46

Int 5: , Cnc : 4 , Dur : 2 , Reg : 9

This bow provides a 21% bonus to all heal and cure gems and has a chance to deal 60 forsaken damage over 15 seconds when landing a ranged shot.
__________________________________________________ __________________

I honestly forgot this bow existed for a while, but then i noticed the master on AH, and that not a single toon in the arena queue uses this item, except for Brau. I could not find a reason as to why, anyone would want to use this bow. I spoke with Freaky, Tsutsu, and Algamis about it, and they told me it's to make a healer / archer. After long discussion, it is apparent that there just isn't enough stats to properly run a healer/archer and staff can do it better.

The bow has surprisingly similar stats to demontendon, but the disappointment on this bow is that it has 10 less minimum damage, but 1 less delay. i'm not even sure how that makes much sense lol, the bow already shoots very slow, why so little min?

it's apparent that both these bows are not doing so well in terms of popularity rate, But i honestly think Heaven Shock is worse.

You could probably get away with running Ranger's Earthflow bow as a healer archer, while getting the 16% bonus to the green heal gems, as well as the mana/energy needed to upkeep them better. So this is probably better than running heaven shock, with just it's mediocre 21% heal/cure boost and useless DPS proc.

my Suggestion for Heaven Shock bow is : raise the heal/cure proc from 21% to 30% and raise its Forsaken proc to at least 120 over 15 seconds, because it just doesn't do much. there is basically no incentive to using this bow, as a one-shot archer, or as a healer archer. It seriously needs buffs, or a proc overhaul. When I think of a bow, that probably Zeus would use, heaven shock, i don't think of this bow at all.

You are right, this bow is totally useless, one cannot create a healer by using this bow because healing gems costs lots of mana / energy.
To shoot that bow, insane amount of DEX is needed and to get near max DMG one needs a lot of CNC / INT thus unable to pump stats to PST, MST, MRE or PRE.
Maybe an archer mediocre healer could be built for PVE, vamp rune might perform better that the outcome of an archer healer with that bow
Curious about stoic continual cure, i guess it's boosted, but the amount is too small to worth it.

In order to make dcdd archers possible, Glitch has added 5 items to the game, i doubt that he would add more items to make archer healer possible.

Proposal for refactoring this LG:
1) Increase low dmg, decrease max damage and decrease delay so that this bow could be shot and get a steady damage curve without needing a lot of DEX and INT / CNC.
2) Switch cure buff to chance to perform a stun when shooting an arrow, because the bow name kinda implies a heaven strike.
3) Switch ... to increase the effect of continual restoration gems when using this bow, i would appreciate if i could switch mana and energy theft runes to something more useful.
4) Switch ... so that when shooting this bow, the entire group gets a range haste aura.

Thanks Lakki for bringing this up.